Where Did God Go in Our Conversations?

Have you ever been with a group of Christians and noticed how little Jesus came up in the conversation? I sat one time in a Baptist church before the service and noticed the (loud) conversation all around me. The poor organist who had prepared a meditative prelude was forced to ratchet up the sound levels to compete with the cacophony in the sanctuary.

A Mary Kay representative was telling of the new shades of color for lipstick. Someone was talking about the Administration’s mishandling of some issue. One guy was really excited about the new Arturo Sandoval CD. Not only was there no reverence for the Lord in a worship setting, there was no discussion of the Lord, period. Social settings are often little different. Everything, but everything, gets talked about but the Lord very rarely figures in the conversation. How strange. It wasn’t always this way among believers.

Adrian Warnock quotes the following on his blog:

“Packer says that the Puritans differ from evangelicals today because with them ‘. . . communion with God was a great thing; to evangelicals today it is a comparatively small thing. The Puritans were concerned about communion with God in a way that we are not. The measure of our unconcern is the little that we say about it. When Christians meet, they talk to each other about their Christian work and Christian interests, their Christian acquaintances, the state of the churches, and the problems of theology—but rarely of their daily experience of God.'”

Christ will only make His way into our daily conversation when He is a living part of our lives. We talk about what we love. The Lord knows the content of our hearts and our conversations. What does He hear us talk about? It’s something to think about.

One of my favorite passages in all the Bible is found in Malachi 3:16-18.

Then they that feared the LORD spake often one to another: and the LORD hearkened, and heard it, and a book of remembrance was written before him for them that feared the LORD, and that thought upon his name. And they shall be mine, saith the LORD of hosts, in that day when I make up my jewels; and I will spare them, as a man spareth his own son that serveth him.

Then shall ye return, and discern between the righteous and the wicked, between him that serveth God and him that serveth him not.

10 thoughts on “Where Did God Go in Our Conversations?

  1. Darrel says:

    This is a sad commentary on the state of the church, but even sadder is the fact that it is true. We have been told that the “worship” part of Sunday morning should in essence a “pep-rally” for jesus (not a type-o). The pe-service music allows your mind to focus on most anything except Jesus. And to top all of this off, our new pastor spent the last two Saturday nights at the local college football stadium. I guess a little quiet time to prepare one’s heart to feed God’s sheep has become passe’.

    Inspite of all of this God is expected to “move” and let His “presence” be felt by the attendees of said pep-rally. I suppose that what little we see of the “move” of God is done inspite of us and not because of us.

    Father, forgive us and have mercy on our sin.

  2. marilyn says:

    True koinonia around our precious Savior Jesus Christ is not the center of our meetings any longer. My heart is so hungry for Christ centered fellowship. I look around in disbelief at the utter disregard for His honor and worship. No one even seems aware that He is not present in these meetings they call church.

    Nothing of any spiritual consequence comes from just gathering. Most people are not looking for simple fellowship around Christ. They are looking for a meeting or a building.”Cosmetic exchanges and surface-level niceties!”

    I seek that “one thing” that Mary chose sitting at Jesus feet. Luke10:42

    Psalm 27:4….Philippians 3:13……John 9:25

    I do so appreciate all of the work you did on Slice of Laodicea. The Lord will continue to use it for His glory even though it has been deleted. He will complete that which He has started.

  3. Shma says:

    It’s all about “church growth”. Everyone seems to be buying into the bigger better trash.

    I think if the church is feeding it’s flock they will be so excited about the Lord they can’t help but share with others & thus the church would grow.

    The church (sad to say I had to leave as they became seeker friendly) I use to attend would often hear (even in the ladies room) of who they had shared the Lord with or who had gotten saved. It was all about the Lord – living for him & sharing him with others. There weren’t gimicks but just preaching the Word. That’s the way for true growth!!!

  4. Paul M. says:

    One of the things that I never understood when I was first converted (from the Catholic belief) was how little the Lord that everyone professed to love, was actually talked about. I understand exactly what you’re talking about Ingrid, and it’s really sad. The God of Heaven is also my provider and He’s provided me with a wonderful spouse who is in love with the Lord, and seeks His face daily for direction in her life. I praise the Lord Jesus Christ for His provision. He said He would not leave us as orphans. When you love someone don’t you talk about that person? Most of our conversations are about the Lord. He’s all we enjoy talking about. It seemed that His name never came up very much before or after church. I’m not in any position to put myself above anyone, if anyone needs the Lord Jesus, it’s me, but I’m just trying to make a point of how blessed I am to have the spouse I have. Also, do you think that maybe for some, church attendance equates with fulfilling their duty to God? How committed are they to pursuing and having an intimate relationship with Him?

  5. Elizabeth says:

    This has been my experience as well. Even among those that I consider my christian friends, Jesus is rarely spoken of in or out of a church setting. When I try to ask a question about what Jesus is doing in their life or what they studied or heard in church recently, I often get a blank stare and a very general answer.

    I usually just feel great sadness over this, but this morning I’m wondering what we can each do in our own corner of the world to change this. Ingrid, I have several ideas, but I’d be interested to hear what your other readers would suggest.

  6. Jean says:

    To Eliabeth: Pray, pray,and pray. We can do nothing in ourselves to get others to love God. I heard a young man once say that until he was brought to the depths of darkness did he realize that God had only been part of his life and it was necessary to make God his whole life. These so-called believers have hardened their hearts to God and only the Holy Spirit can reach them.

    To Ingrid: Thanks for printing this scripture–it says it all. God bless

  7. Jean says:

    To Eliabeth: Pray, pray,and pray. We can do nothing in ourselves to get others to love God. I heard a young man once say that until he was brought to the depths of darkness did he realize that God had only been part of his life and it was necessary to make God his whole life. These so-called believers have hardened their hearts to God and only the Holy Spirit can reach them.

    To Ingrid: Thanks for printing this scripture–it says it all. God bless.

  8. Jim says:

    Ingrid,

    Thank you so much for your website. I was so sorry to find the the “slice” content had been deleted.
    When I first became a believer, at age 42, the church I attended was passionate about discussing the Lord’s Word at every opportunity. Later, circumstances made it necessary for me to attend a different fellowship, and I always found it peculiar that the same attitudes were missing among so many who were members. The behaviors of most were not only an ongoing insult to the person playing the prelude, they were confusing preparation to worship with their normal preparation for whatever secular activities they engaged in.
    Thankfully, my wife and I have found churches in the two cities we live in (summer, winter) that believe reverence is an absolutely necessary element to all of worship. Allowing the behaviors described should shame the elders and ministers who pander to it.
    Thank you again for all your efforts. May God bless you richly.

  9. Carol says:

    We speak about that which is most important in our thoughts and lives.

    When Jesus is not discussed, the heart condition of those “believers” needs to be questioned. Why go to church and why call yourself a Christian if your focus is more on food, shopping, nail polish colors, sports, etc?

    People who are so carnal and not appreciate and love the Lord with all their hearts and worship HIM should stop wasting their time attending a ritual when their hearts are not on Him. God sees into the heart and if it’s just empty, it’s not pleasing Him! They are only fooling themselves.

    This may sound harsh, but warm bodies in a pew thinking about what they are going to do after services is NOT pleasing or honoring God!

  10. Mary says:

    This lifestyle is a refection of a “state of the heart”. They have given their “heart to Jesus” (in part). Some tend to make excuses for it: they are carnal Christians, they are growing at a slower rate, immature,…we have heard them all. We fail to do what Jesus said:to love them. How? We speak evil and not blessing.
    As one who is growing through a separation process, I am convinced that this passage of sanctification experiences the pain that actually brought Jesus to declare the death of the “whitewashed tombs” in Matthew23. People who call themselves “born again” yet have left their first love, and talk about and live for what they actually love more than Jesus, are described in detail in this chapter. The Master also tells them what they need to do in order to be restored in His fellowship: “For I tell you, you will not see me again until you say, ‘Blessed is the one who comes in the name of the Lord.'”
    Coming out of an unchurched background into a pentecostal denomination, and now seeing much false teaching there, we must quit wasting precious God given breath on speaking evil and use this divinely inspired breath to pray, pray and PRAY for one another. YES even for those who say “I am a C…H…R…I…S…T…I…A…N” outwardly, but whose speech gives them away!
    With Love, Your Sister

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